How Reiki and Emotion Code Help Anxious Pets

[00:00] Dr. Ruth Roberts: Welcome to Healing Tails. I'm Dr. Ruth Roberts, here to help you become the best pet parent you can be with simple natural care that works for real life, real budgets, and real pets. Hey, y'all, welcome back to Healing Tails. I'm Dr. Ruth Roberts, your original pet health coach, and today we've got a really special guest joining us, Sarah Paplham. And if you don't know Sarah, she is one of our certified holistic pet health coaches, and she's bringing in over 15 years of experience as a certified dog trainer specializing in fear-based behaviors. She's also running a smaller stress-reduced boarding and daycare facility for pets. And I think this is an incredibly thoughtful approach for furry friends who need a little extra care and gosh knows, Hayao does. She is like, "Whew, does not like being away from us for sure." But what makes Sarah's work even more fascinating is how she's integrating energy healing into her practice. Her journey into energy work started as a personal exploration, but it quickly expanded to include both her family, her own pets, and the dog she was training. Sarah became a certified practitioner in the emotion code in 2019, a method developed by Dr. Bradley Nelson to release trapped emotions that can cause stress and behavioral issues. And in 2024, she became a Reiki master and teacher, further deepening her ability to help pets move from fear to freedom. And Sarah, I'm so happy you're here with us. So let's jump right in. You've been doing a lot of really amazing work in terms of energy healing. So can you share a little bit about the, if there was a thing that really started you down that path to explore this? And then how did this evolve from being something to support you personally to supporting your pets and your clients' pets?

[02:16] Sara Paplham: Yeah, for me as a kid, I've always been, what do you call it, like a feeler and an empath. So it's like emotions have always been a big thing of mine. Fast forwarding into the standpoint of being in a religious church type thing, nobody really understood what I was going through. And on top of that, it brought on a lot of health issues for me, which I found out in 2016, I have Lyme disease, I have chronic Lyme disease, never getting any answers from doctors. I always had a passion for dogs. And it was starting to take a toll on me pretty quickly health wise with the Lyme. And nobody was giving me relief. So I started going into the energy aspect first and got answers and relief through a program called quantum energetic structured therapy. But with me, it was working, but it wasn't really going away. So then I started looking into it. Because I'm like, well, emotions are a big thing for me. That has to be a link to this. And then I found Dr. Bradley Nelson's program. And when I did that, I was amazed at seeing, wow, I used to do that. I don't do that anymore. After a certain amount of sessions of releasing these trapped emotions, I started doing it on my two adopted kids that I have. For example, my daughter for example was pulling her hair out and eating it. I don't remember the medical term for it. But a week after I released a whole bunch of inherited trapped emotions. And she stopped the next day, like she looked like a cancer patient when she did this, she pulled so much hair out. So then I have these couple dogs that are actually really, they stress out easily in my kennel. And I just did the emotion code on them. And it was like night and day just even in days, just in days. So it's like, I got into this because of that purpose. And how we all know they talk to us, you know, they communicate energetically with our pets. So I'm thinking, why aren't we learning how to do this?

[04:20] Dr. Ruth Roberts: Or how did we forget? Yes, do you think that's the case? Do you think it's more of a like, as you mentioned, you're an empath, you felt people's emotions and probably didn't really understand how to deal with that. Do you think that that's part of the deal is that we knew how to do this, but somewhere along the line, it got trained out of us? Is that a fair assessment?

[04:41] Sara Paplham: 100% I am. I took another course too, because I am an animal telepathic communicator, but I'm in practice. I've always been able to do that. And I always thought it was just my brain racing, because like my brain goes 1000 miles an hour all the time. And with me, I did. It's like I used to always hear animals, but I never thought it was them. I thought it was just crazy. My brain's just going, you know, and yeah, I do. I believe in that.

[05:11] Dr. Ruth Roberts: So how did you come to understand that a lot of the dogs you were working with really their behaviors were based in their fear? And you've been doing this for 15 years. So what are the most common triggers you've seen for these guys?

[05:31] Sara Paplham: For me watching when dogs come in, because the owners are like, Oh, my dog is just so scared or so nervous. I just can't get anywhere with them. It's a lot of times in the standpoint we're pushing our mentality, our belief system on our dog, because this is how we do it. We should just do it with them, where I'm trying to explain to them the certain body postures you're doing is what is pushing. You're pushing your dog over, you know, over the limit for them right now. And also in the standpoint, I tell people when we're looking at dogs that genetics is huge. I tell everybody, if you're going to go to a breeder, you need to like 1000 questions to this breeder. Make sure you're seeing the area. Make sure you're seeing mom and dad. But the other thing that I've noticed is how are the people feeling? How are the owners feeling? Because if they're like, Oh, my poor puppy is always so scared, that energy is getting portrayed onto the dog. And then they're like, I have to stay like this, or it's petting the dog. It's okay. Because we as humans are comfortable. We like to nurture that's just what we like to do. But then that just instills that into the dog, because they're like, well, you want me to keep doing this, you're telling me to keep doing this. So it is huge. In the standpoint, looking at the whole scenario, everything can be different for each individual dog.

[06:58] Dr. Ruth Roberts: Right on. And I think what you said is really key is understanding that we're actually training the dog to elicit this behavior that we actually don't want, or don't want for them. So I think that's really key. So how do you start like that can be pretty dicey conversation with a pet parent? How do you start that conversation with somebody?

[07:23] Sara Paplham: Some people I do explain to them right away, because yes, it is. I tell a lot of people I'm like, this does sound woo woo. I'm going to tell you that right now. I used to be in the same boat. I said, and it's really hard to be with people, because again, back in the day, I used to be a Christian. And I had Christians attack me on this hardcore, where I say to them, I'm sorry, I believe our God, our Creator is energy, we are energy, everything in this world that we are around is energy. I said, and if you really sit still, sit back and watch if you have multiple pets, watch how they communicate. They're not constantly talking like we are. I said, so this is how when we have something that we have done over and over with training, you've tried medication, it's not working. There's something energetically stuck that in my opinion needs to be released. And what I'm doing right now is if people sign up for a training, I'm offering the clearing kind of as an add on so they can see the difference.

[08:24] Dr. Ruth Roberts: Right on. So that and that is tough. So the two modalities that you use most frequently are Reiki and emotion code. And, you know, and we always are like, Oh, this sounds woo woo, but but so what are they and and actually, how do they work? I think Reiki is something more people are familiar with. So maybe start with that.

[08:48] Sara Paplham: Yeah, so Reiki, of course, is from a Japanese linked technique, you know, so it's focusing on channeling the universal energy that promotes balance and well being is pretty much what it does. You can have a Reiki practitioner either gently put their hands on you if the person is comfortable with that. Or you can do it from a distance where you're not touching the person and you know, it's like right above for pets, how I do it for the animals as I just sit in a chair and I just kind of send it out to them. And if they come to me, they come to me if they don't, they don't, it has to be on their terms, we can't just force them, lay down and do this and take this we can't do that because then the relaxation is not going to come. And so far, I've had a lot of dogs that you know, they do. I've had owners where I showed them this is what I did with your dog and they were like, Wow, she's never come over to just sit in pets. And I'm like, awesome. I did it, dogs in their kennel when they're just obsessively barking, and two to three minutes they go way down and they stop me later. Amazing.

[10:00] Dr. Ruth Roberts: Cool. So let's talk a little bit about the emotion code. We kind of touched on it briefly. But what are you doing when you're working in this modality?

[10:14] Sara Paplham: So people can come to me for a different scenario, different scenarios of what they're dealing with, everything can be different. I have a lot of people that come to me like, I don't know what really so with emotion code, there is a belief of this technique that it is so it's aimed to release trapped emotions that either are from ourselves that we went through or inherited from our family. And when we do this, it's looking for how do I put it, if somebody is dealing like my anxiety is just horrible, or I just always have a sore back, we focus on what they're dealing with and ask the subconscious, is there a trap emotion linked to this issue they're dealing with. And for me, everybody there's different ways of doing muscle testing. Some people do the arm test where they'll push on the person's arm when they're asking. I don't let people do that to me because with my lime, my arms get weak really quick. So I do ring on ring, I'll ask in a muscle testing form. And if it doesn't break, the ring doesn't break. It's a yes. If it breaks, it's a no. And when I find that, I will release it in the standpoint and how he explains it is we are doing it from the main meridian, you were swiping over your head, or over the client's head. But for dogs, of course, I can't do any of that. Everything is me being a surrogate for the pet. And I'll release it over my head. And for me, I tell people what I'm doing is I'm stating whatever word comes in my head that needs to be imprinted into you kind of how I put it. So I'll just like love or I'll hear release balance. Just those kinds of things. And when we do that, I have had people that have like when I brought up something, they'll be like, "Wow, my God, the pain is going away." So we don't realize because it's like, oh, we really are focusing on when we hear emotional, a lot of people only focus on PTSD. And it's like, "Okay, if that's a real thing, then why aren't we digging deeper into it?" So it's something that's the only way that I can get people to really understand the emotion code aspect. I mean, if PTSD is from all the emotional trauma you went through, then let's look into and find that root cause to see what's stuck. Let's get the body to release it.

[12:35] Dr. Ruth Roberts: Right on. And I think that is so critical. I mean, I showed my little poodle beyond a shadow of a doubt. Dogs do have PTSD. I mean, just no way about it. She came out of a house, and a woman had 140 dogs in there. And just the first felony animal abuse case in South Carolina. But I mean,it's astonishing to me that these guys can come out of those types of situations. And still love us and still trust us. But we've done a lot of work with her over the years because she had probably not only her own trauma, but also generational trauma. Because her mother and family were in this house as well. And so I think that's something we don't... It's beginning to be understood better for people, but it's something I think we don't understand for dogs, cats, horses, cattle, any animal. 100%. Yep. Right on.

[13:43] Dr. Ruth Roberts: So you're combining energy healing with traditional training methods. And so can you share an example of how this pairing has really helped an anxious pet or pet with other issues in terms of reactivity or something like this?

[14:02] Sara Paplham: Yeah. So if I am working with a dog that is a fearful based dog that you just can't get near and I've had any of those, I literally do it in the standpoint where they stay on their leash and I just let them stay connected to me and feel my energy. And while they're doing that, I'm sending Reiki out to them while I'm sitting on a chair and they're at the end of the leash. I'll be releasing trapped emotions while they're doing this too. But then I'll also be doing the small things in training that we're doing, where I tell a lot of people when we're starting with training for dogs that are nervous, take a treat and toss it across the room. This is going to show the dog at the same time, all I can respect you, you're not forcing yourself in my space. They come on their terms. And once we get to that point where they're doing it every time, they get closer and closer and closer, then I get to see, "Okay, can you sit for me? I'm going to see if you sit for me." And if they do, "Awesome. I'll toss the treat again away from me." This again is just building that bond of, "I can trust you. You're not making me a pet or in my space," stuff like that. Then again, if it starts to get better, then I'll go and I use the touch cue, see if it will willingly touch my hand with its nose. If not, "Okay, we move to something else." Then we just start walking and just getting the dog to start using... Sorry, understanding, "Okay, I can trust you. I'm feeling you. You're safe."

[15:30] Dr. Ruth Roberts: Right on. And are there times where that's all you can do with a dog? Is more energy modalities versus actually training?

[15:39] Sara Paplham: Sometimes I do. I did that with a couple I had that came to my kennel. I took care of this one dog because he got kicked out of a kennel that he used to go to because he went after the owner. When he's in his kennel, he's Kujo. And when I mean Kujo, he's Kujo. When he's out, he's the biggest baby ever. He's super sweet, like an awesome dog. I took it. He was a rescue from down south. Something in the kennel happened because he did the same thing at home. If he was in a kennel and the owners touched it, he went after the owners. I just found a way. I worked on him one day and I just released a couple of emotions. And my husband recorded it the next day, letting him out. And he walked in. He ate his treats. He looked at my husband. My husband told him to sit. He sat. He wasn't growling and foaming. He wasn't doing anything. But then once the lock on the door fell, he came right back. So it was like, yeah. So it's for me in certain standpoints, yes, I believe there is. And especially dogs that have gone to boarding trains, I believe need just energy work because every dog that has ever come to me from a boarding train wants to get every dog that I have at my kennel.

[16:55] Dr. Ruth Roberts: Wow. That's amazing. Yeah. So what are the most common emotions that you find you need to help that dog release?

[17:07] Sara Paplham: It's hard to say which is common because there are so many. And I wish I could figure. I wish I would have had my thing to like to set up the list, but there are many, many lists. And I'm going to kind of show a little screen of what it may kind of look like if it pops up here, I don't know if it's going to, there we go. That is a lot of emotions. And a lot of people don't realize that the organs in our body are what produces these emotions. So some of them can be so like I've actually been linking it to is like for an example, if you look at crying, discouragement, rejection and sadness and sorrow that is actually linked to lung and colon, which makes so much sense when they're at a boarding facility, when they have diarrhea, because now they're like, what is going on? Why am I here? They're stressed, they're sad, they're confused, they're defensiveness, grief, you know, all of these. So every dog is different. Anxiety is the big one that comes up because of what they're dealing with and stuff. But I get, I get a lot where I'm like, Oh, really, you have this? I didn't think you'd feel this, you know, type things. Okay.

[18:20] Dr. Ruth Roberts: Wow. Interesting. Well, and that makes sense, right? In Chinese medicine, grief is lung and colon. So sadness, all of those things. So very interesting. Wow. Cool. So for parents that are listening and you've been, you know, you've been trying this, you've been trying that you still your dog is flunked out of five different training programs. What are some signs that their pet actually might benefit from energy healing?

[18:48] Sara Paplham: A lot of people tell me that if your dog is a constant tail chaser, that's not a good sign. It's not funny. There's something wrong. Like, you know, yes, it could be boredom. But if you are doing everything that you're supposed to be doing, that can be, you know, there's something energetically stuck in my opinion. Dogs that you see chasing lights, like say you open the door and that light from the door goes on the floor and they go obsessed with that. Sometimes licking too, I mean, unless you're having a, you know, a specific health issue and you see red skin or something like that. But I think in the standpoint of obsessive panting, obsessive licking, panicking on the door, you know, the door and you just can't get them to calm down. A lot of this stuff when I start seeing dogs that are so obsessed in their behavior, and you've tried everything, it's because they're in such overload and their body doesn't know how to release that energy naturally, something stuck.

[19:50] Dr. Ruth Roberts: That makes total sense. And just out of curiosity, is this work that you're able to do remotely for pet parents?

[19:58] Sara Paplham: 100%.

20:05] Dr. Ruth Roberts: There you go. Because energy travels everywhere, doesn't it? Yes, it does. So if you're, for those of us pet parents sitting at home and you're like, "Oh my God, will this dog please stop doing whatever the thing is?" And they have anxiety, what are some things that pet parents can do to try to help support their pets and reduce that anxiety?

[20:24] Sara Paplham: So I do tell a lot of people when you're having that issue, think of how you're feeling about it though too. If you're nervous, if you're frustrated, if you're overstimulated by it, if you're sad about that energy, you're feeling that your pet is actually feeding it. And I had a dog that I was training. The dog went through a rough life. I think the previous owner that he was with was not mentally healthy because then the family members, so the original owner committed suicide, the nephew took the dog, didn't do very well. I mean, did okay in the household, but I think they had a Roddy that was like a bully to the other dog, but then they had to get rid of the dog a year later. So then the mother took the dog, which was actually the sister to the original owner. And it was funny because when I felt this dog who it was overwhelming for me, I could feel the pent up anxiety in this dog. And when we were working with it, I got it to calm down. I was doing Reiki while I was talking to the owner. I was just doing it while I was talking to the owner, but then the owner got into the conversation of the situation in the family and what happened. So the emotional story started coming out and the dog was going crazy after laying and sleeping by my feet. Just woke up and just went crazy. So I looked at her and I said, did you see that? And she's like, what? This is how I tell people to sit, watch your dog, chill with them, put your hands on them. Don't pet them. Just place your hands on them. And you're going to literally just think of the positivity that you want to instill into your pet. And this is where you're going to start to see your dog just go from.

[22:17] Dr. Ruth Roberts: Right on. You're just beautiful. You're going to. And I think, you know, so it's like, wow, the lady really didn't understand that the dog went from sleeping to going bananas. But I think that's what we get as pet parents and people, we just get accustomed to something that is a really negative behavior or just a bad energy balance. And we don't even see it or feel it anymore.

[22:59] Sara Paplham: It has become a habit. It's just a habit now. It's part of your life, your ritual, your lifestyle, if you want to call it that. And I'm like, now we have to break this habit. That's going to be the hard part, but that's what we have to do too.

[23:01] Dr. Ruth Roberts: Well, and that's it. I mean, just knowing what the thing is, what the trigger is, I think it is 80 percent of solving the issue. Yeah. And you're like, damn it.

[23:13] Sara Paplham: Yes. You know, it's like they said that to me. They're like three weeks. I was shocked in three weeks. We have been able to finally communicate with this dog. And I'm like, this is awesome. I said you guys are doing amazing. Like it's they did so much work into this and paying attention. It was awesome.

[23:35] Dr. Ruth Roberts: Cool. And just out of curiosity, did the family dynamics change as well?

[23:42] Sara Paplham: I think so. Yeah. Because even with walking into the house, the biggest thing I noticed was noticing them too with them when I was training, I would catch them correcting a little too harshly just because of the reaction. It's just such a reaction to everybody. And it's also frustrating. And I'm like, okay, hold on. Take a tone down that it doesn't need to be that hard. I said, and I'm like, if it ever happens, you are over frustrated. You guys just need to walk away. Just walk away. Go chill for your you know, release how it is for you that it works. Then come back. I said, because it was like, it was really funny because the son with the dog was extremely bonded to the son because he was with him for a year. But the son was so frustrated with how the dog would act. And I'm like, okay, don't do that anymore. Do this. Do you see the difference? I said, and I'm like, wow. And I'm like, he's feeding off your frustration. It may not seem like a bad behavior, but yet it is because it's jumping. But it's over excitement can be them feeding off of our frustration. Doesn't always have to be a negative thing as in, you know, everybody, but they're so happy. Look at how happy they are. Yeah, but that's not a good thing being like that. Yeah, that's way too happy.

[24:56] Dr. Ruth Roberts: Yeah. That's kind of one of the biggest things, right? Because they're so they have their own set of issues potentially that they come into. But do you find that some of these behaviors when we talked a little bit about triggers, but do you find that some of the behaviors really are just responses to the energy within the household?

[25:20] Sara Paplham: 100%. Yep. I've had one time years and years ago, I was working with this golden retriever and came in and was playing with my dog and was really nervous. As soon as the owner left, the dog perked up. And I held the person I'm like, are you looking at this? And she's like, Oh, I'm so glad. I'm so glad and so happy that he's playing and blah, blah. Were you nervous when you were in here? I said, I'm always nervous. That makes sense then. And it's huge. That's where I tell everybody it is about us. We need to learn. And I show everybody you can communicate with your dog without talking, like using your body and figuring out how to do it. But I tell people it's like you've got it. Focus like you're literally energetically telling your dog with your eyes, but you're saying it in your head, they can hear you sit. But don't say the word. They're gonna do it eventually, because they're going to get it. But if you don't do it a lot, now they have to get used to how you're doing it.

[26:17] Dr. Ruth Roberts: They have to adapt to our communication style. Yes.

[26:24] Dr. Ruth Roberts: So that's pretty interesting. So there's this lady with the golden retriever. She leaves the dog like, and so how do you then continue working with a person like that? That's like, Oh my God, yes, I'm nervous. How do you help them learn how to shift their own emotions so that it doesn't impact the pet?

[26:46] Sara Paplham: If they're open, then they do this work too. Because this is where I tell people to do this with people. I love working with people from this standpoint, too. Because I am a big believer that if we're not going to release our issues, we're not going to be able to deal with our pets. So many, many years ago, I used to, I asked, I had my little conversation with God and I asked, why are you having me work with dogs? What is that going to do for you? And he stated the question, he stated this to me, DOG, depend on that. If we depend on our source, our dogs depend on us. We look to the source for our leader, you know, for leadership, our dogs need us to be the leader. But our source does not force us to do anything. We are using too much force and training. So in the same standpoint, he said to me, "You can't work on fear if you don't work on your own. Right on. Okay, I said, that makes sense. So that is where I tell people if we can do this with you, if we can find a way that you can release what way works for you, this is going to better you and it's going to better your pet because they are going to feed off of this. The stress and I've said that to families, too. I'm like, Okay, I'm going to tell you right now, this house is kind of not being rude, but chaotic. I'm a little overwhelmed myself walking in this house. And I can just imagine what your dog is feeling right now too. And this is why we can't get your dog to settle down.

[28:16] Dr. Ruth Roberts: Right on. And that's a hard conversation to have with people potentially. Do you find that you have a rough idea of what percentage of people are like, Yeah, I know. And others like you're just nuts ladies.

[28:32] Sara Paplham: I probably have a lot of people that do think I'm nuts. So I want to say it's either a 5050 or a 6060 40. You know, it's, I have a lot when they're like, Wow, it really does work. And I'm like, I yeah, you know, it's like I get it, this may not be for everybody. But yet I look at it in the standpoint, you're going to find your way that works for you. But that's the thing we need to find the way that works for you to release how you're feeling. And then training is just going to come as a breeze.

[29:02] Dr. Ruth Roberts: You know, yeah, that's amazing. So what do you think is the biggest misconception about energy healing for pets or people that you'd like to clear up?

[29:16] Sara Paplham: My biggest misconception, just because of the life I've lived and how I was raised, is the religious aspect of me when I got into the emotion code stuff, and I put out on Facebook, because I had to practice with people. And I had people come at me and tell me, you know, this is not of God and da da da da da. And I'm like, where is this not why, you know, and so that in my own state, my opinion is where the fault of where it's the struggle, because a lot of people look at it, it's either this way or no way. And I don't believe in that. I believe everybody has their own way. If it's something that doesn't work for me, but it works for this person, where am I right? Do I have any right to say to somebody, that's not the right way to do this if it works for them. You know, so I look at it as I'm, we need to find what works for that specific person. But that's the same thing with the training. I tell everybody, if you have a trainer telling you that you have to do it this way, and the dog has to do it this way, it's not working. Why are you doing that? It's, you know, it's like me having my autistic son and my daughter that is not autistic, expecting them to do the same exact thing. Absolutely not. Why are we doing that to our pet?

[30:26] Dr. Ruth Roberts: Right on. And I think that's it. I mean, that's the very definition of insanity, right? To repeat something over and over and over again that fails time after time and expect different results. Yep. Yeah. Sweet.

[30:43] Dr. Ruth Roberts: So, I mean, this is something you started down a path personally to help support yourself and then ended up using it to support pets. And what, how has this work with pets impacted you personally? What have you learned from them as you've helped them move from fear to freedom?

[31:04] Sara Paplham: I've learned they are more accepting of humans. (Laughter) They are more open. You know, it's like whenever I'm having a bad time, like a bad day or something, or say you fight with your significant other and you just need to go and chill, I'll go somewhere. And it's like, there's a water place over here. And it's funny because I'm like, I even watch, say the geese and watch how they communicate and how they, you know, survive and live their life. But it's like with our dogs, I mean, I used to have a cat. I love my cats, but they weren't my pets. I was their pet. (Laughter) You know, my black one was just a mutt, but I loved him. He said that to him all the time. You are so lucky. I love you. But I've seen it in our dogs. They are so much more, they are the true definition of unconditional love. Like, I don't understand unconditional love on the human side. That's just me personally, because nobody out here understands it. And for me, that's what my pets have shown me. It's like, okay, you've gone through something. Let's figure out that root cause, that issue and just deal with it. And then move on. Somebody wanted to come say hi. I love your doggies. I got a miniature poodle myself. And I never thought I would own a poodle myself, but I love him. (Laughter)

[32:36] Dr. Ruth Roberts: I didn't either. She was my mom's dog. And when my mom died, she started traveling with us. And she is the best traveling dog ever.

[32:44] Sara Paplham: Oh my gosh.

[32:45] Dr. Ruth Roberts: She's so sweet. I love the color. But I think you're right. I mean, they do show us how to be better at giving our love freely and without condition. And those are hard lessons because we've been trained to think we need to put conditions on everything. It's not necessary. No. No. So looking ahead, do you feel like there is a time where energy healing for people, for pets, will become more widely accepted?

[33:17] Sara Paplham: I think so. It's already starting to get there. I mean, my biggest thing with this is I'm hoping it gets bigger. I really do. But I hope it gets bigger in the right way and not in the bad way, because then people are just doing it because everybody's doing it and it's the new thing. Right. And then you're not doing it with the right intention then. And I'm really hoping people get it from that standpoint, I'm doing this for the person, not for the, "Look what I can do." If that's your mentality, you're not going to bring healing to the person, in my opinion. It's all learned.

[33:54] Dr. Ruth Roberts: Right, because your ego gets in the way of transmission, right? 100%. 100%.

[34:00] Dr. Ruth Roberts: So when you're doing this work, and this is kind of the, when I started learning acupuncture, this is kind of the way our teacher explained it. It's that part of it is the intention of placing the needle is to make healing, to have a specific impact. But if you're really doing it right, you are not the delivery of the energy, you're only the conduit. So is that how you feel when you're doing this work?

[34:31] Sara Paplham: Yep. I tell people that. I'm not, I tell everybody, I'm not the one doing it. I'm the vessel. And I'm giving what your body needs. That's what I'm doing. I said, and the emotions, I go by what I hear in my head. It's like, if I feel like I need to do something different, I'm going to do something a little bit different because I'm going by what your body is telling me to do. That's what I'm doing. Because I had to get out of my way so many times because I would find something off of somebody and it would be like, "That can't be right." I had to let it go. I had to be, "Nope, the body is guiding me where it needs to go." And yeah, I tell everybody, "We got to get out of our own way because we are the ones that are in our own way most of the time."

[35:16] Dr. Ruth Roberts: Amen to that. I had a dear friend who was a chiropractor, but also did energy work. And so I was asking her one time, I'm like, "Oh, I could feel something change." I'm like, "Susan, what the heck did you pull out of me?" And she looked at me and she said, "Sometimes we don't have to look in the trash can, do we?" And that was like, "Okay. All right. I got it."

[35:42] Dr. Ruth Roberts: Well, cool. Sarah, any parting words of wisdom that you want to share with folks so that they have less worry about supporting their dogs?

[35:55] Sara Paplham: I am really big on letting people, if you feel something's wrong, go with your gut. Don't let somebody talk you out of it. Because that was the one thing I did all the time. I've always felt like something else was wrong. And I was told, "Oh no, it would be this, this, and this if it was bad." For example, I had a great dane masked up with Wobbler syndrome. I told the vet, I think he's on the verge of Wobbler syndrome. And he looked at me and he's like, "No, he'd be walking drunk if he was." That's why I said on the verge of it, literally in weeks, he was down for the count. Like weeks. It was not, it was fast. And I was mad because he didn't listen to me. You know your pets. You know you listen to your intuition, your inner voice, whatever anybody, what you call it.

[36:42] Dr. Ruth Roberts: Cool. And I think those are profound words of wisdom. If we don't trust ourselves here, then all the rest of it goes by the wayside. Thank you for this really uplifting conversation. And before we wrap up, where can our listeners learn more about your work or connect with you if they're interested in exploring energy healing or their pets?

[37:09] Sara Paplham: So I have a website that is mainly my kennel, but I do have my energy work on that page as well. Sarah's Playful Pals, Kennel in Training, LLC. I am in Wisconsin, but again, the energy work can be done remotely. And my other site that I'm working on building up for my coaching and just the energy work is ways to holistic health.

[37:36] Dr. Ruth Roberts: Sweet. Cool. Thank you so much for joining. This has been really enlightening.

[37:43] Dr. Ruth Roberts: Thanks for the opportunity. Yeah, I enjoyed it. Oh, it is my pleasure because your work is so needed and so profound. So for those of you listening in, stay tuned. We've got some more amazing conversations coming up.

[37:58] Dr. Ruth Roberts: Thanks for listening to Healing Tails where pet parents become healers, one tail wag at a time. Want more tools and support? Head to DrRuthRoberts.com. Until next time, trust your gut, question the noise, and keep showing up for your pet.